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Spinal Chat with PCA
The PCA Podcast Each episode brings you insights, conversations, and practical guidance to help chiropractors strengthen their practice, elevate patient care, and thrive in today’s evolving healthcare landscape. Tune in, stay informed, and be part of the movement advancing chiropractic in Pennsylvania.

Welcome to Spinal Chat, the official podcast of the Pennsylvania Chiropractic Association. Each episode brings you insights, conversations, and practical guidance to help chiropractors strengthen their practice, elevate patient care, and thrive in today’s evolving healthcare landscape. Tune in, stay informed, and be part of the movement advancing chiropractic in Pennsylvania.
PCA Deep Dive: Dentists of the Spine; Why Chiropractic Should Be the First Stop
Why does modern healthcare still send so many patients with uncomplicated back and neck pain into the wrong doorway?
In this episode, we examine what happens when patients enter the fragmented “spine supermarket” of urgent care, primary care, pain management, imaging, medication, and premature surgical referral, despite guidelines that support reassurance, activity, conservative care, and avoiding early imaging in most uncomplicated cases.
We explore how this failure is not just inefficient, but harmful. When the wrong doorway becomes the default, patients may be exposed to unnecessary imaging, fear-based decision-making, escalating interventions, and long-term disability. From there, we unpack the Primary Spine Practitioner model and make the case for chiropractic physicians as the evidence-based, conservative front door to spine care.
This episode also examines how that role manifests in real-world systems, including Washington State guidance on traumatic brain injury referral following motor vehicle collisions and the growth of chiropractic services within the Veterans Health Administration.
We close by examining a new challenge, consumer AI tools that often reproduce legacy “see your MD first” referral patterns, even when the evidence points elsewhere.
This is a conversation about triage, authority, policy, and the future of conservative musculoskeletal care.
What We Cover
- Why spine care often fails before treatment begins
- The “spine supermarket” problem in modern healthcare
- How the primary care bottleneck contributes to poor routing
- Why early MRI findings can worsen fear avoidance and chronicity
- The difference between symptom management and true musculoskeletal triage
- The Primary Spine Practitioner model
- Why chiropractors are positioned as first-contact providers for uncomplicated spine pain
- The importance of diagnosis, care planning, and referral authority
- Washington State guidance on post-MVC concussion and TBI recognition
- What the Veterans Health Administration shows about chiropractic integration
- How consumer AI tools may repeat old bias in new forms
- Why policy, payer, and digital routing reform matter
Why Spine Care Fails 02:32
The Spine Supermarket 04:44
Primary Care Bottleneck 07:09
MRI Fear Cascade 09:56
Iatrogenic Chronic Pain 10:53
Primary Spine Practitioner 12:11
Chiropractic Authority 14:27
Dentist of the Spine 17:28
Washington TBI Case 21:56
VHA Integration Proof 24:07
AI Repeats Old Bias 27:21
Fixing Digital Gatekeepers 29:21
Wrap Up and Call to Action
Email the PCA: pca@pennchiro.org

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The COCSA (Congress of Chiropractic State Associations) called our Scope “the most archaic and restrictive in the entire country”. It’s time to make a change.
PA Chiropractors have been using an outdated scope of practice for more than half of a Century!
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Please be advised that the PCA X-ray Working Group was successful (as previously mentioned in emails and videos) in petitioning the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) in 2022 to lower the annual DEP fees chiropractic offices pay per x-ray tube. This endeavor was started in 2015 by myself, Dr Vic Rizzo chairperson of the X-ray working group, in my position as the chiropractic representative to the PA Radiation and Protection Advisory Committee (RPAC).
The video above explains that the recent June1, 2023 letter you received from DEP refers to an upcoming fee increase to the prior category that chiropractors are leaving. It fails to mention that chiropractors will actually see a fee decrease from $400 to $195 per year per x-ray tube beginning of October 1. This was done by moving chiropractors into the dentist, podiatrist and veterinarian category due to our limited use of x-ray versus continuing in the same category as outpatient x-ray imaging centers like hospitals where chiropractors have been since the beginning of this fee. For those who were billed before October 1, 2023 you must pay the current $400 fee. For those billed after October 1, 2023 you will see the new fees.
Had the PCA NOT been able to get chiropractors moved into this new category, and then instead you would have seen a $130 increase in chiropractic office’s annual fees, or $530 per tube. Therefore, through the hard work of the PCA, ALL Pennsylvania Chiropractors will receive a $335 savings per year to chiropractors who take x-rays. Your PCA dues do make a difference. That means that if you have an X-ray machine, the PCA is really only costing you $265 a year, since the PCA saved you a $335 a year! PCA Dues pay for themselves!
Update from PCA Pediatrics and Pregnancy Working Group Co-Chair Dr. Lawrence Bagnell
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Let’s pass the Chiropractic Medicare Coverage Modernization Act this year!
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